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Wysłany: Pią 16:09, 30 Sie 2013
Temat postu: English Language Usage Meta Stack Exchange
English Language Usage Meta Stack Exchange,
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I decided to remove 44 instances of the acceptability tag. But the facts of language are not so clean-cut. Instead, many students of usage today prefer to talk about acceptability, that is,
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, the degree to which users of a language will judge an expression as OK will let is use pass without noticing anything out of the ordinary. An acceptable expression is one that people do not object to, indeed do not even notice unless it is called to their attention.
Acceptability is not an absolute, but is a matter of degree; one expression may be judged more or less acceptable than another. "If I were in your shoes" may be judgled more acceptable than "If I was in your shoes," but both are considerably more acceptable than "If we was in your shoes." Moreover, acceptability is not abstract, but is related to some group of people whose response it reflects. Thus most Americans pronounce the past-tense verb ate like eight and regard any other pronunciation as unacceptable. Many Britons,
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, on the other hand, pronounce it as "ett" and find the American preference less acceptable. Acceptability is part of the convention of language use; in talking about it, we must always keep in mind "How acceptable?" and "To whom?"
There are ~600 instances of the usage tag which I think has an identical meaning as acceptability,
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.
I move that acceptability be restored and renamed to grammaticality. Also, many questions in usage should probably be re-tagged grammaticality,
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, though not all. The tag grammaticality should be reserved for questions whose main thrust is a query about whether some word or phrase (or group of words or phrases) are grammatical/acceptable. Questions in which grammaticality of some usage is only tangentially relevant do not need this tag. Once questions of grammaticality are removed from usage, then I think at that point would be a good time to revisit whether usage is actually meaningful. (I think my hunch that it's not from this previous discussion of usage is right, and "Ex-User's" answer there is actually quite incisive.)
When it comes to how to answer questions about grammaticality/acceptability,
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, I think, in general,
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, if a question asks if a particular usage is acceptable in a certain context,
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, that question is too specific and localized to be interesting enough to answer narrowly. However, I don't think such questions should be closed. Rather, the answers should address grammaticality/acceptability of the questioned usage in all contexts,
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, including the one asked about, and (optionally, though preferably) the question should be edited to reflect a query about grammaticality/acceptability in a broader range of contexts.
Here are some questions that I think would benefit from being tagged grammaticality:
Is it okay to say and write "ain't" yet?
Which is correct - "nothing" or "anything"?
When is it okay to end a sentence in a preposition,
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?
Is there some rule against ending a sentence with the contraction "it's",
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?
Are split infinitives grammatically incorrect, or are they valid constructs?
I can run faster than _____. (1) him (2) he?
In each of the above questions,
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, there are answers (usually mine-I picked them because I was already familiar with them) that address the grammaticality of a usage in different contexts.
For comparison,
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, here are some questions currently tagged usage that have nothing to do with grammaticality:
What is the verb used to indicate that you have travelled from point A to B by motorboat?
How to politely yet effectively remind someone to reply to your email,
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?
Is pants more commonly meant to be trousers or underpants,
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?
Why do signs read "wet floor",
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, not "slippery floor"?
I think usage is acceptable as a tag simply to differentiate between other kinds of questions (spelling, punctuation,
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, grammar). While the distinction can get blurry,
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, I think the fact that this site is called "English Usage" suggests that is creating a compartmentalization that includes Usage as something separate from English in general. Questions about grammar, structure, syntax,
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, etymology, terminology - all those fall under the rubric of English; other questions involve how words and phrases are used in common situations, and so I think usage is just fine for those.
I don't think acceptability is a useful tag as it is hopelessly subjective (and in a sense argumentative). Usage at least refers to something that can be measured, statistically analyzed,
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, whatever.
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