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I decided to remove 44 instances of the acceptability tag. But the facts of language are not so clean-cut. Instead, many students of usage today prefer to talk about acceptability, that is,[link widoczny dla zalogowanych], the degree to which users of a language will judge an expression as OK will let is use pass without noticing anything out of the ordinary. An acceptable expression is one that people do not object to, indeed do not even notice unless it is called to their attention.
Acceptability is not an absolute, but is a matter of degree; one expression may be judged more or less acceptable than another. "If I were in your shoes" may be judgled more acceptable than "If I was in your shoes," but both are considerably more acceptable than "If we was in your shoes." Moreover, acceptability is not abstract, but is related to some group of people whose response it reflects. Thus most Americans pronounce the past-tense verb ate like eight and regard any other pronunciation as unacceptable. Many Britons,[link widoczny dla zalogowanych], on the other hand, pronounce it as "ett" and find the American preference less acceptable. Acceptability is part of the convention of language use; in talking about it, we must always keep in mind "How acceptable?" and "To whom?"
There are ~600 instances of the usage tag which I think has an identical meaning as acceptability,[link widoczny dla zalogowanych].
I move that acceptability be restored and renamed to grammaticality. Also, many questions in usage should probably be re-tagged grammaticality,[link widoczny dla zalogowanych], though not all. The tag grammaticality should be reserved for questions whose main thrust is a query about whether some word or phrase (or group of words or phrases) are grammatical/acceptable. Questions in which grammaticality of some usage is only tangentially relevant do not need this tag. Once questions of grammaticality are removed from usage, then I think at that point would be a good time to revisit whether usage is actually meaningful. (I think my hunch that it's not from this previous discussion of usage is right, and "Ex-User's" answer there is actually quite incisive.)
When it comes to how to answer questions about grammaticality/acceptability,[link widoczny dla zalogowanych], I think, in general,[link widoczny dla zalogowanych], if a question asks if a particular usage is acceptable in a certain context,[link widoczny dla zalogowanych], that question is too specific and localized to be interesting enough to answer narrowly. However, I don't think such questions should be closed. Rather, the answers should address grammaticality/acceptability of the questioned usage in all contexts,[link widoczny dla zalogowanych], including the one asked about, and (optionally, though preferably) the question should be edited to reflect a query about grammaticality/acceptability in a broader range of contexts.
Here are some questions that I think would benefit from being tagged grammaticality:
Is it okay to say and write "ain't" yet?
Which is correct - "nothing" or "anything"?
When is it okay to end a sentence in a preposition,[link widoczny dla zalogowanych]?
Is there some rule against ending a sentence with the contraction "it's",[link widoczny dla zalogowanych]?
Are split infinitives grammatically incorrect, or are they valid constructs?
I can run faster than _____. (1) him (2) he?
In each of the above questions,[link widoczny dla zalogowanych], there are answers (usually mine-I picked them because I was already familiar with them) that address the grammaticality of a usage in different contexts.
For comparison,[link widoczny dla zalogowanych], here are some questions currently tagged usage that have nothing to do with grammaticality:
What is the verb used to indicate that you have travelled from point A to B by motorboat?
How to politely yet effectively remind someone to reply to your email,[link widoczny dla zalogowanych]?
Is pants more commonly meant to be trousers or underpants,[link widoczny dla zalogowanych]?
Why do signs read "wet floor",[link widoczny dla zalogowanych], not "slippery floor"?
I think usage is acceptable as a tag simply to differentiate between other kinds of questions (spelling, punctuation,[link widoczny dla zalogowanych], grammar). While the distinction can get blurry,[link widoczny dla zalogowanych], I think the fact that this site is called "English Usage" suggests that is creating a compartmentalization that includes Usage as something separate from English in general. Questions about grammar, structure, syntax,[link widoczny dla zalogowanych], etymology, terminology - all those fall under the rubric of English; other questions involve how words and phrases are used in common situations, and so I think usage is just fine for those.
I don't think acceptability is a useful tag as it is hopelessly subjective (and in a sense argumentative). Usage at least refers to something that can be measured, statistically analyzed,[link widoczny dla zalogowanych], whatever.
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