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Tips on how to get started in the IT field,[link widoczny dla zalogowanych]
thats right but its better to have the right qualifications/certifications too. Like I said above someone with CCNA/MCSA or MCSE and no experience will have a harder time getting a job than someone who has entry level certifications because having the high level certs means you don't need any training and IT managers will expect you to hit the ground running and know what to do.
Whereas somone with entry level certs will be trained up and shown the ropes.
I have seen so many people with high level certs and no experience find it hard to get a job as soon as they took the high level certs of their cv/resume and kept the entry level certs on they were hired.
I don't think having high level certifications hurts your chances in getting an entry level job but don't expect it to help. The recruiters that called me for help desk positions couldn't care less about the CCNA. They wanted either an A+ or Microsoft cert. BUT,[link widoczny dla zalogowanych], I think I got picked for the job that I have now because of my CCNA. The engineer that interviewed me is a big cisco fan and plan on implementing a lot of cisco devices. I got lucky though so I would suggest to everyone else like me without experience to get the A+ first before anything else.
I was going to do microsoft certifications but I don't want to be a systems admin. I want to be a network engineer so the CCNP route seems like the right way to go. When I graduate in a few years,[link widoczny dla zalogowanych], I'll have several years of experience, a BS in Information Technology,[link widoczny dla zalogowanych], an AAS in Cybersecurity, a CCNP and hopefully a CCDP as well. It should be a bit easier finding a job by then.
Keep at it. Took me close to 4 months to get a full time job. It does seem like no one wants you if you don't have experience. I had an interview for junior noc administrator and they were impressed by how well I did on the tests. They gave me several tests where they said the average was in the 50s and they wanted someone that would score in the 60s. I scored in the high 80s. Yet, I get "We are impressed by how much you know, but we decided to go with someone that has more experience."
My advice would be to get the A+ if you don't already have it and look for part time field tech jobs. That was the first one I got. I had a phone interview and was hired the same day. Phone interviews always include tests though so make sure you know your stuff. Good luck,[link widoczny dla zalogowanych]!
I don't think having high level certifications hurts your chances in getting an entry level job but don't expect it to help. The recruiters that called me for help desk positions couldn't care less about the CCNA. They wanted either an A+ or Microsoft cert. BUT, I think I got picked for the job that I have now because of my CCNA. The engineer that interviewed me is a big cisco fan and plan on implementing a lot of cisco devices. I got lucky though so I would suggest to everyone else like me without experience to get the A+ first before anything else.
I was going to do microsoft certifications but I don't want to be a systems admin. I want to be a network engineer so the CCNP route seems like the right way to go. When I graduate in a few years, I'll have several years of experience, a BS in Information Technology,[link widoczny dla zalogowanych], an AAS in Cybersecurity, a CCNP and hopefully a CCDP as well. It should be a bit easier finding a job by then.
You're advice is great and you're right about network managers not letting someone inexperienced look after their network. One mistake and the whole network could go down. But for my situation,[link widoczny dla zalogowanych], the CCNA helped. It took a while before I could get a job but I'm able to get one where I could actually mess around with cisco equipments. I should be able to get several years of experience through them since it's not a contract position,[link widoczny dla zalogowanych], and I actually got a raise even though I haven't even started working yet. It was weird they offered me a certain amount and I said that's fine. Then they had me do a drug test. They called me again after they got the results and offered me a higher salary. Don't know why but hey I'm not complaining. LOL.
I didn't say that I said generally people with high level IT certs and no experience will find it hard to get a job because high level certs are designed to show your experience level.
I know too many people who have had to hide the fact they are CCNA certified or MCSE certified on their CV/resume to get a job because when they have applied with it previously on their cv/resume has been discarded because of the no experience part. We do it at out company too.
If I want someone to work with me on the network I want them to be experienced it doesn't matter to me if they have all the qualifications/certifications in the world if they have no experience I am not going to trust them,[link widoczny dla zalogowanych].
Now it would be different if that person was going for a trainee position where they had to ghost the technicians for 6 months or so before even getting anywhere near a switch or a VLAN then higher level certs may be accepted on their application but generally I would want someone on my team to have experience from the bottom and have worked their way up and gotten certified at each level appropriatley.
I have met and worked with too many people who have high level certs with no experience who don't really have a clue about what they are doing. Some people are good at passing exams but suck when it comes to real world stuff and there are people who are crap at passing exams and good at the real world stuff. This is why employers dont like to see people with no experience and high level certs because it makes choosing the right person for the job very difficult and it costs firms lots of money and time to have to keep re-advertising for new techs and getting rid of techs that are useless.
The OP got a job with his CCNA which is very cool but he is an exception rather than the rule. Not many people do that,[link widoczny dla zalogowanych].
I'd have to agree with greenbrucelee. A CCNA without experience is pretty useless in getting entry level jobs like helpdesks and field techs. I thought I didn't need the A+ since I have an associates degree, a ccna,[link widoczny dla zalogowanych], and security+. But,[link widoczny dla zalogowanych], every entry level job wanted an A+, and after a while I eventually gave in. Once I got my A+ I got several calls and got my first break with a part time field tech job.
I had my first day of work today,[link widoczny dla zalogowanych]. Very busy day. I came in at 8 and didn't have a break until 3:30. I enjoyed it though and the day went by pretty quick. Didn't mess with the cisco devices yet but worked on some computers and added some rules on the firewall of a remote site.
I'd have to agree with greenbrucelee. A CCNA without experience is pretty useless in getting entry level jobs like helpdesks and field techs. I thought I didn't need the A+ since I have an associates degree,[link widoczny dla zalogowanych], a ccna, and security+. But, every entry level job wanted an A+, and after a while I eventually gave in. Once I got my A+ I got several calls and got my first break with a part time field tech job.
I had my first day of work today. Very busy day. I came in at 8 and didn't have a break until 3:30,[link widoczny dla zalogowanych]. I enjoyed it though and the day went by pretty quick. Didn't mess with the cisco devices yet but worked on some computers and added some rules on the firewall of a remote site.
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